Also under the Outlaw umbrella are two subwoofers (one of them THX certified) and numerous small products and accessories. Other Outlaw products include seven-channel, five-channel, and monoblock amps. The new Outlaw Audio RR2160 Stereo Retro Receiver is an updated successor to the RR2150 which has been in circulation for over a decade. It’s rated at 110 watts x 2 into 8 ohms (that’s up from 100 in the previous model) and 165 watts into 4 ohms. I am testing out a Marantz PM7000N and I'm digging it but considering going with the Outlaw and just getting streamer separately. Location: Charlotte, NC. It released its first model, the RR2150, over ten years ago; now Outlaw sells the second version, the RR2160… This thing ways more than many, many 7.2, even 9.2 channel AVRs out there. 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Most features While the Outlaw review was posted in October on SoundStage!Access, the Onkyo’s wired and wireless network streaming capability made it a better fit for Simplifi, also reviewed in October. You I think I have to get that 40lb beast. Hi John - I have owned the Outlaw RR2150 for the last 12 years and it has been running all this time without a problem. Analogue Dr. & 2CH Ave. Calgary, AB, Canada, (You must log in or sign up to reply here. ChrisR2060 Forum Resident. SO rare these days. An Ethernet jack allows DLNA Please follow this link to the corresponding page of the new Outlaw Audio web site!this link to the corresponding page of the new Outlaw Audio web site! So i’ve decided to upgrade and i have narrowed it down to three choices, the NAD c338, Marantz pm6006 and the Cambridge CXA60. The front panel’s right-hand partition, marked by a stylishly curved diagonal slash, contains the volume knob and buttons for mute, source select, and recording source, as well as those to operate the modest setup menu utilizing only the front-panel display. But for me the quality of the phono stage is also important. USB charging, and 12-volt triggers. Meanwhile, Ethernet, IR remote, trigger, and USB accessory power are also provided for. Minus Onkyo PR-SC886/Outlaw 7125 Klipsch RF-82 L/R,RC-62 center, RB-35 SR/SL, BENQ HT1075, Outlaw LFM1-EX/OPPO BDP-83/Directv Harmony ONE Blue Jeans and Monoprice interconnects APC H15 Power Conditioner. On the outside, the Outlaw Audio RR2160 has the same unique Art Deco facade as its older brother, but under the chassis are some nice modern amenities that today’s audiophile will love. Take Two The Outlaw RR2160 is a stupendously great-sounding stereo receiver. Prism, Aug 17, 2018 #1. My first receiver was a 15-watt-per-channel Pioneer SX-434, but it just as easily could have been a Marantz, Sansui, Kenwood, Luxman, or any of several other storied brands. Any one know what it uses for internet radio? Discussion in 'Audio Hardware' started by Prism, Aug 17, 2018. There are separate A and B speaker terminals (wired in parallel) for main and second-room options and there is a front-panel ¼-inch headphone jack with level control. He's serious, they're actually getting pretty rare. Superb product. Outlaw Audio RR2160 Stereo Retro Receiver Review. This month's Stereophile has an excellent, in depth review of the RR2160 and its capabilities. The Outlaw Audio RR 2160 stereo receiver flat out sounds better than any receiver or amplifier I've heard for its $799 asking price. Want me to explain the difference between Dolby B and Dolby Other Outlaw products include seven-channel, five-channel, and monoblock amps. Its three times the price of the Outlaw and PM8006, but it may also be the last amplifier I would need for the next 20 years. Take Two The RR2160 is Outlaw’s second-generation stereo receiver. vTuner, Tune-in .... etc? It has two channels of amplification, with no video switching, surround processing, auto setup, room correction, etc. The Outlaw RR2160 uses a Burr-Brown PCM1792a 24-bit/192kHz DAC chip with NE5532 dual op-amp filters. The Marantz PM8006 would seem like a logic upgrade as I like the Marantz sound, I am looking to stick with solid state and I like having tone controls if necessary. Stereo preout and main-in RCA jacks allow connection of an external amp (not likely to be needed), crossover, or equalizer; supplied bridges are pre-installed between them for the default direct connection. Nowhere near in the same league. AT A GLANCE It has a quality DAC, MM/MC phono stage, bass management and loads of other features. The RR2160’s predecessor was the very successful RR2150, the senior member of Outlaw’s line at the time of its retirement. The RR2160 doesn’t impose an overwhelming personality on content. All three receivers produce high quality, warm, non-harsh stereo music while providing sufficient amplifier overhead to shake the … The diagram in the manual shows some groups of controls set off by background shading, but the shading, mysteriously, doesn’t appear on the remote itself. Evoking the silver-faceplate aesthetic of the ’70s—with an unorthodox dash of Art Deco—it wears its knobs and buttons proudly. Radio options span the generations: AM, FM, HD Radio, internet radio. However, it’s dominated by seemingly uninterrupted rows and columns of nearly identical buttons and doesn’t work hard enough to organize controls by size, shape, or layout. "This receiver is a music listener’s best friend." Would you choose the Marantz PM8006, the Outlaw RR2160, the Marantz's PM-14S1 or stick with the Marantz PM6005 if you were in this situation? The company’s surround pre/pro is five years old, but the Outlaw retail site carries a more up-to-date Marantz for one-stop separates shopping. There are, however, two subwoofer outputs if you’re in the mood for home theater 2.1, plus a sub crossover switch that provides analog bass management and toggles among 60/80/100 Hz and bypass options. I could, y’know. Outlaw Audio's website refers to the RR2160 ($799) as a "Retro Receiver," as "The Last Great Stereo Receiver," and as "the proud successor to the RR2150." Outlaw Audio RR 2160 for sale. I just added KEF LS50 speakers to my system and I am very impressed with their sound. For example, the RR2160 retains and improves on the thick, multi-layered, aluminum front panel design, will keep the audiophile-quality phono preamp and offer configurable analog bass management. Damn. can access music from any networked PC or other device via Ethernet-supported DLNA, or you can plug a storage device into the front-panel USB jack. This product will be literally plug and play for many users. I Suspected the PM-14S1 would be the favored choice. I also used a Micro Seiki BL-51 turntable (the larger of two, nicknamed Micro Senior) and a Shure M97xE (moving magnet) cartridge. It has all the features anyone could need- including USB DAC which is very rare on home theater receivers. I’m considering the pm-14s1 and pm-8006 too. The bass response of the two looks identical because my measurement interface was the limiting factor in this case. are now remote accessible. No HDMI or other video switching and internet radio access; digital over-the-air HD Radio has been added to the AM/FM tuner. I was curious to hear how that combo would compare with my reference DACs. Onkyo vs Outlaw response difference. Now i like the thought of going with the CXA60 but am worried based on quite a few reviews that the sound will be similar to the topaz but better at it and thats not what i want at all. The RR2160; The Last Great Stereo Receiver . Crazy the 2160 has increased in price since 2018! 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The Outlaw Audio RR2160's amplifier section is all new, with power conservatively FTC rated at 2 x 110 watts at 8 ohms, and 2 x 165 watts at 4 ohms, both channels driven. was set to stereo downmix, which Outlaw’s bass management obligingly delivered in 2.1. The first time I used the remote, it took me 10 seconds to find them (and this hadn’t been a problem with the RR2150’s remote). On the back are enough binding posts to allow connection of two pair of speakers, switchable via front panel or remote. Did you end up going with the Outlaw? The company’s surround pre/pro is five years old, but the Outlaw retail site carries a more up-to-date Marantz for one-stop separates shopping. I had the option of playing loud or louder without fretting about any tradeoff between volume and comfort; the top end retained its refinement at any volume I could withstand in my room. Schiit Vidar/Saga vs Outlaw Audio RR2160 for Magnepan .7. The Marantz is 125watts per channel Outlaw is 75watts per channel Any and all views are welcome. The remote control is backlit and has a nice heft, thanks to its all-metal construction. Yes a dedicated 2 channel is better, before anyone starts The company’s surround pre/pro is five years old, but the Outlaw retail site carries a more up-to-date Marantz for one-stop separates shopping. ), Forum Policies, Rules, and Terms of Service. SACD priority was set to stereo (avoiding multichannel). Marantz Rotel All the above do good amps at various price ranges (also depending on where you are in world with import duties) And some AV receivers do have phono pre built in, so if on a budget and want HT as well, just saying. The original “Retro Receiver” was designed to stand the test of time and it has certainly done that. JackG, Jan 4, 2020 #7. With the PM-14S1, though, they don't work as a traditional (jumpered) pre-out/main in. – Steve Guttenberg, CNET “The Outlaw RR2160 was a joy to use. There’s also a set of classic external loop jacks to accommodate a tape deck. I know some reviewers say these two pieces of gear sound alike, but I DISAGREE. It also has loads of power and both reviews mentioned the Outlaw plays nice with the KEF LS50 speakers. The Outlaw RR2150 receiver's speaker-driving characteristics seem to be similar to the Marantz and Pioneer in several respects. If Bass Management for Front and Sub is not necessary, then consider as an alternative, the Yamaha RN803 - The receiver comes safely packed in a dual carton with seemingly indestructible foam. (That this isn’t a standard feature in top-line AVRs is a perpetual disappointment.). Discussion in 'Power Amps' started by emusic2000, Sep 6, 2017. emusic2000 Rando. This beefy stereo receiver took control of my speakers of average sensitivity with dynamic confidence, giving rhythm sections a reliable firmness. The volume keys in particular are undersized and too well camouflaged. The player’s coax-out was set to PCM, since this non-surround receiver doesn’t decode Dolby or DTS bitstreams. Just asking. I'm selling a pristine Outlaw Audio RR2160 receiver/integrated amplifier. The treble control operates at 10 kilohertz ±10 decibels, the bass control at 50 hertz ±10 dB, and the Speaker EQ provides a 6-dB boost at 55, 65, or 80 Hz. I am also considering the Marantz PM-14S1 reference integrated amplifier. Front-panel occupants include defeatable treble, bass, and balance controls, a three-setting bass boost called Speaker EQ, a variable headphone output, and a few others. I'm now using separates so I no longer … Today, top-line stereo receivers from the ’70s—their shiny silver faceplates bristling with knobs, buttons, and toggles—command eyebrow-raising prices on eBay and are lovingly restored by vintage hi-fi buffs. Looks like Outlaw Audio has made some nice improvements to the rr2150. Highly recommended!” knob on an AVR). It does not hold a candle to my Outlaw RR2160 in any way, though. The Outlaw Audio RR2160 does not play DSD files, but the OPPO BDP-103 can output them at a sampling rate of 88kHz in PCM, which the Outlaw was able to play. Thanks for the responses. Front-panel controls have been updated from analog potentiometers (which oxidize and grow noisy over time) to digital rotary encoders (much like the volume The aluminum front panel is thicker. I went this way years ago when money and space was tight. There is no HDMI interface; you may connect the audio portions of A/V products via coaxial, optical, or analog inputs, but video switching must go through the TV. And finding all of that plus proper analog bass-management for sub, as with the RR2160, is even more unique. Adam Stoltz Stunt Coordinator. Even finding a variable pre-out is not all that common any more (as opposed to tape-outs, which lots of people use I guess?). Although not an AVR, Outlaw’s second-generation stereo receiver has an intelligently chosen feature set, bodacious industrial design, and lots of clean power for music lovers on a budget. By way of background, it will be the proud successor to the RR 2150. I connected my Integra DPS-7.2 DVD-A/CD player to the RR2160's coaxial input, and for an entire day, CDs sounded smaller, thinner, weaker, more canned and mechanical. The menu is nothing like an AVR’s vast compendium of options; you might never need to enter it at all. I owned a vintage marantz 2252 that had all out of spec caps replaced and it sounded excellent- something about the sound that made it so listenable- sweet and detailed. 110 watts x 2 Outlaw Audio RR-2160 Stereo receiver $999.00 Currently backordered with no expected delivery date due to the Corona virus The Outlaw Audio RR2160 is a stupid good-value Internet Direct 110wpc stereo receiver. The RR2160 is Outlaw’s second-generation stereo receiver. But the bottom line was the sound and, copared to the Outlaw, the Rotel was thin, flat, dull, and so-so. I have the original box. Would you choose the Marantz PM8006, the Outlaw RR2160, the Marantz's PM-14S1 or stick with the Marantz PM6005 if you were in this situation? The solid-state RR2160 is built to supply up to 110W into 8 ohms and 165W into 4 ohms. Ethernet but no Wi-Fi or Bluetooth. Using the Internet Radio was fun, but I quickly learned how daunting it could be. Echoes Myron and CrazyCatz like this. But the new receiver differs from it in several ways, large and small. We needn’t dwell on the fact that, because this isn’t an A/V receiver, it doesn’t have a standard AVR feature set. What I mean is, does the power amp direct has to be chosen as a source there also? Neutral voicing is a good thing: Not evasive but truthful, it opens a window into music and reliably gauges the quality of source components. I don't mind paying the money if it's worth it but I also like to get value for my money. controls Its only serious omission is wireless connectivity; many listeners may want to have Bluetooth, at least, fully integrated into the receiver, though accessory receivers abound, including one from Outlaw. The aforementioned phono input accommodates either moving-magnet or moving-coil cartridges. And I’ll say it again: You can plug a laptop into the receiver, via the back-panel PC-USB input, and that’s cause for celebration. Sorry, but I assume you're being cynical? One might argue that no single product category has brought vastly improved sound to so many, so fast, as the now-retro stereo receiver. Quad put up a better fight, but also lost. Thanks, John . Plus The tuner had the best reception and sound quality of any I had heard. As beautiful and easy to use as the receiver is, I had to dock it an ergonomics point for the remote. C noise reduction in a cassette deck? PC-USB and phono inputs "The Outlaw Audio RR 2160 stereo receiver flat out sounds better than any receiver or amplifier I've heard for its asking price." The Marantz SR5014 is a new member of the Marantz receiver lineup superseding the SR5013. I'm not an expert, so can't tell if most amps have these or not. Digital coaxial and optical audio inputs have been added, along with a second monophonic subwoofer output, Other Outlaw products include seven-channel, five-channel, and monoblock amps. Hoe doe these two compare on that part? The player I don't know the proper terminology to describe them but they have an almost three dimensional feel. Associated equipment included two, just two, Paradigm Reference Studio 20 v.4 speakers with a Paradigm Seismic 110 sub (a nifty little 10-inch bruiser for which I continue to give thanks). Jerks! My current integrated amplifier, the Marantz PM6005, drives them well, however, I suspect I may get even more out of the KEFs with an amplifier with a little more oomph. Regarding the Parasound, I was hoping to see the original Halo integrateds being sold at liquidation prices, but there was no inventory left to liquidate. Stereo receivers are now a thing.Yamaha’s R-N803 ($749.95 USD) is the third model I’ve tested in the last two months, the other two being Onkyo’s TX-8270 ($499) and Outlaw Audio’s RR2160 ($799). One company, Outlaw Audio, was an early leader of the stereo-receiver revival. Holy cow, that thing has pre-out/main-ins! I never heard the RR2150 but my trusted peeps tell me it was "amazing for the price." [It] is a conspicuously good-sounding audiophile product at a ridiculously low price. Signal sources included an Oppo BDP-83SE universal disc player, connected to the system via both its Special Edition analog and digital coaxial outputs. Wi-Fi and Bluetooth are not (although Outlaw does offer various wireless accessories). This should be sufficient to run speakers that are slightly less sensitive than average, with power to spare in many rooms. Released in the summer of this year, it carries the same price tag of $999 as its predecessor but it has a few updates, including HDCP 2.3 support and Dolby Atmos Height Virtualization processing. I know Vidar/Saga and Outlaw Audio receiver are Very different animals offering different services. Ive always liked the analog bass mgmt. The RR2160 is Outlaw’s second-generation stereo receiver. Note the clear evidence that the Outlaw is operating in 96kHz whereas the Onkyo is operating in 44kHz with a slow roll-off filter. Bass, treble, balance I use one in my 2-channel set up. 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